FWIW & YMMV
Lately I am perplexed by some of the pictures that I see posted on forums. I know that I now look at picture I took 20 years ago of dogs that I was very proud of and wonder how I could have shared those pictures. It took many years before I found myself mentors who spent time to teach my eye to understand what I was seeing, and how all the pieces fit together to make a functioning machine. I am sure that somewhere down the line, if some of the posters are still in the breed they will do the same.
For many years I loved to sit beside some of the pioneers in the breed at specialties, and not comment, just listen to the information that was freely shared, if anyone would take the time to listen to them. Some of my most treasured moments were spent sitting and soaking in information from Helen Jones at the Western Reserve and National Specialties. When I doubted myself, and where I was going with my own breeding program, I am thankful for Helen and Bob, who convinced me to stay true to my vision. Without their guidance I was so discouraged that I considered placing Dolly.
I bred my first litter 21 years ago. While I have finished dogs from each and every litter (except the “oops” where Megan raped her nephew) there are some that I wouldn’t show today, and some that I would love to be able to show again. I would like to think that I have improved the quality of my lines overall, and that what I am placing as pets today, far surpasses what I showed a decade ago.
Last night I had a long discussion with someone who has a young show puppy from me. We ended up having a long and involved discussion on fronts, as she was hearing different comments from breeders, and wanted my opinion.
Most of you know, I like to evaluate my puppies at 7 weeks. In my experience, what I see then, is what I see at 6 months, and what I see at maturity. Not every one agrees with that, and every breeder has their own opinion, and their own experience of what has worked for them. I have a vision of what I want to see at 7 weeks, and that has not failed me. So I thought, that I would share some photos of what I am looking for, and what I won’t continue to run on at that age, for what its worth. Others, may agree or disagree, your mileage may vary, – but maybe we can spark some interesting discussion.
The Front of the Bus
Here are some examples of puppy fronts taken at 7 weeks
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Puppy #2 |
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Puppy #3 |
Puppy #4 |
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Puppy #5 |
Puppy #6 |
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These are puppies from different litters – some good, some bad, some in pet homes, some in show homes. You will noticed that NONE are pigeon-toed, that is that on none of the puppies do the front feet point at each other!! I have seen several pictures lately of puppies where that is the case. In fact at this age, I want the front feet point as straight forward as possble.
I have said many times that what I want to see in the front of a Cardigan is a “Y” not an “H”. Here are two of the pictures from above marked up to show what I mean.
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The puppy on the left is wide in the front. He resembles the letter H. It makes me think of football goalposts, or a garage that you could park a Mack truck in. This is enhanced by the flat bottomed brisket. As well because there is no wrap, there is daylight showing between the brisket and the upper arm.
The puppy on the right, has the Y front that I love. His shoulders are smooth, and the upper arms wrap tightly around the brisket. The brisket itself has the correct egg shape, and drops nearly to the wrist..
Using this as a guide, now lets evaluate the six puppies.
Puppy #1 is obviously Puppy Y. I would have liked to see the brisket maybe come a little bit lower, but it is more than adequate. Adequate enough that this is the 2013 Crufts and World Dog show winner at 7 weeks
Puppy #2 again has more than adequate wrap, but the point of the brisket was, at 7 weeks, still a bit higher than I like. However, I ran him on, and he has again developed into a beautiful top winning dog, and successful stud dog himself.
Puppy #3, I would say has almost an ideal front. Lovely bone, a nice deep brisket, proper wrap with no daylight showing. Unfortunately he was unshowable due to other factors.
Puppy #4, I would have kept as showable even a decade ago. However, as my eye has developed, I think he needs more wrap (see the daylight showing again). He also needed a bit more bone.
Puppy #5 is our H puppy. Definitely not a show puppy. Yet I have seen many pictures of puppies with exactly this front being posted!!
And puppy #6 – is an interesting mix. He has wonderful bone and wrap. I would have liked to see more “egg” to the brisket, but its adequate.
So for what its worth, that is my opinion on puppy fronts. Your experience as a breeder may be different and any and all tasteful comments are welcome – even dissenting opinions as long as they are worded maturely and in a discussion and not accusatory tone. My blog is fully monitored and I will not allow this post, or any future ones, should I decide to do others, to become personal battlegrounds.















